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Zac Bertschy is dead

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 6:52 am
by mbanu
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/editor ... am/.159803

A member of the Tucson Animation Screening Society (C/FO - Tucson) and a big influence on the Anime News Network and through it on us anime "middle-schoolers"; RIP, Zac!

Re: Zac Bertschy is dead

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 3:18 pm
by SteveH
From the reactions I've been seeing this seems to have been completely out of the blue. I'm slightly bothered there seems to be no mention of the cause of death.

I didn't often agree with his reviews (but his enthusiasm for 'Keep your hands off the film club!' was infectious and sold me on it 100%) and there were times in his Answerman columns I felt he missed a few important data points in some discussions, but overall he seemed a good person I would have enjoyed talking to at a con. His guidance of ANN made it a cut above just another fan site bitching about stuff.

Too young. too young. My condolences to those who knew him better.

Re: Zac Bertschy is dead

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 3:29 pm
by mbanu
Connecting it back to the Old School; everybody starts somewhere.
From: Zac Bertschy <bert...@azstarnet.com>
Subject: Re: Call for Disney Adult Animation
Date: 1995/07/19
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Hey....How do you pronounce these words?

Anime: Is it An-yme or An-I-Mee?
Manga: Is it Man-ja or Man-Ga?
Thanks!
(https://groups.google.com/forum/message ... aMeYu-M5UJ)

Re: Zac Bertschy is dead

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 6:00 pm
by mbanu
The replies, plucked from a long and rambling thread about Disney and anime. :)
Chris Mack wrote:
Zac Bertschy wrote:Hey....How do you pronounce these words?
Anime: Is it An-yme or An-I-Mee?
An-I-Mee
Zac Bertschy wrote:Manga: Is it Man-ja or Man-Ga?
Mang-Ga (or at least that's how I pronounce it :-)
Zac Bertschy wrote:Thanks!
You're welcome

Joe Amato wrote:
Chris Mack wrote:Mang-Ga (or at least that's how I pronounce it :-)
Are you refering to the Italian word 'mangia'? As in 'to eat'?

...then it would be pronoounced 'monja'. The 'i' in 'mangia' sometimes
(ethnicly) produces a very slight 'ee' sound before the 'a'.

ciao

Douglas Limmer wrote:
Zac Bertschy wrote:Hey....How do you pronounce these words?
Well, these are approximate, and I may get corrected, but...
Zac Bertschy wrote:Anime: Is it An-yme or An-I-Mee?
Ah-knee-may. [except the vowels are shorter]
Zac Bertschy wrote:Manga: Is it Man-ja or Man-Ga?
Mah-n-gah.

Susan C. Mitchell wrote:
Zac Bertschy wrote:Hey....How do you pronounce these words?

Anime: Is it An-yme or An-I-Mee?
Manga: Is it Man-ja or Man-Ga?
Ah-nee-mey (borrowed from the English "animation") and Man-ga.

Matt Robinson wrote:
Susan C. Mitchell wrote: Ah-nee-mey (borrowed from the English "animation") and Man-ga.
So not from the French Anime' "animated"? Makes more sense :)

Jason Ahrens wrote:
Susan C. Mitchell wrote:Ah-nee-mey (borrowed from the English "animation") and Man-ga.
Are you sure it wasn't from the french anime' meaning animation?

D.L. Norton 3rd wrote:
Zac Bertschy wrote:Hey....How do you pronounce these words?

Anime: Is it An-yme or An-I-Mee?
Manga: Is it Man-ja or Man-Ga?
Actually..the pronounciation of MAN-JA is Italian for "eat" or "eating" ..
_
And the spelling of "anime'" with the little accent pronounced (an'ah me):
-- n. any of various resins or copals obtained from several tropical
trees, used in making varnish, scented pastilles, etc. *as per Websters*
_ _
..can also be pronounce "animi" <ah ne'me>
Susan C. Mitchell wrote: Ah-nee-mey (borrowed from the English "animation") and Man-ga.
...learn something new everyday :)

Spartan wrote:
Jason Ahrens wrote:
Are you sure it wasn't from the french anime' meaning animation?
As an avid Anime fan, I always thought this to be the case..
Wasn't the english word taken from the french one? Or is it vice versa?

Susan C. Mitchell wrote:
Matt Robinson wrote:
Susan C. Mitchell wrote:
Ah-nee-mey (borrowed from the English "animation") and Man-ga.
So not from the French Anime' "animated"? Makes more sense :)
Could be that too. Cognates.

Eric T. Cheng wrote:
Spartan wrote: As an avid Anime fan, I always thought this to be the case..
Wasn't the english word taken from the french one? Or is it vice versa?
Well, since American culture had a great influence on the Japanese,
especially during the American occupation after WWII, the Japanese were
quite influenced with American animation (Disney, Jones, et al) and comics.
Greats like Osamu Tezuka publicly admitted that he was very much
influenced and inspired by Walt Disney's early works. With the American
influence, the Japanese shorten their pronounciation of "anima-shun" to
"anime" (pronounced "annie-may").
And yes, "anime" is also French considering English is essentially a
language based upon other languages (ie. French, Latin).

--
Eric "it's Greek to me" Cheng
UofO Anime Club's Founder and Former-President

Jason Ahrens wrote:
Spartan wrote: As an avid Anime fan, I always thought this to be the case..
Wasn't the english word taken from the french one? Or is it vice versa?
Brobably english came from french, but don't quote me on that one.

Stefano Pucino wrote:
D.L. Norton 3rd wrote:Actually..the pronounciation of MAN-JA is Italian for "eat" or "eating" ..
_
Man-jiare is Italian for "eating". Man-jia means "eat". (^_^)
"Man-ga" is better.
D.L. Norton 3rd wrote: And the spelling of "anime'" with the little accent pronounced (an'ah me):
..can also be pronounce "animi" <ah ne'me>
Susan C. Mitchell wrote: Ah-nee-mey (borrowed from the English "animation") and Man-ga.
Susan
Yes. "Ah-nee-me" is correct. the "me" is pronounced like the "me"
in "Melody". (^_^)
D.L. Norton 3rd wrote: ...learn something new everyday :)
Watashi moo ;)

Re: Zac Bertschy is dead

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 6:25 pm
by Akage
SteveH wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 3:18 pm
From the reactions I've been seeing this seems to have been completely out of the blue. I'm slightly bothered there seems to be no mention of the cause of death.
From the way the article was written (and his most recent Twitter comments), it seemed apparent on my end that this was due to mental illness and was most likely a suicide. I used to butt heads with Zac a lot during his Answerman and Tales from the Convention days. His responses to me felt like he had internalized whatever was written to the point that it deeply disturbed him. I would always mock him for allowing words to control him like that. But having lived with a parent who has dealt with mental illness for most of my life, I could tell from his many comments that he was dealing with many of the same issues. Judging from the Twitter comments, I'm sorry to say that it looks like I was right in that regard.

Disagreements aside, I'm sorry that he passed away. I'm sure his friends and family are going to be asking themselves a lot of 'what ifs' over the course of the coming months ahead, and I hope that they're able to get the help that some of them might need to address that.

Re: Zac Bertschy is dead

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 4:08 am
by Fireminer
This damned pandemic is really testing people. While I hope that Zac's death isn't connected to COVID-19, it is still a blow in these hard times.

Re: Zac Bertschy is dead

Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 10:21 am
by davemerrill
it's terrible news that has hit a lot of my friends really hard. I didn't have a lot of interaction with him other than Twitter and being on the ANN podcast once, and sure, he had an insatiable appetite for midlist Hollywood dreck that was inexplicable, but he was a friend and I'm gonna miss him, and I hope every failed human who used him as an attempted whipping boy for daring to have Opinions feels bad today, because they should.