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Guilty Pleasures

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:32 pm
by raiderfan99
Okay, everyone has got one, don't be afraid to admit it.

Back in the mid 90s I liked MD Geist, I even had a shirt :o I liked that bloodbath type stuff, like Genocyber, FOTNS/HNK, Angel Cop, etc. Oddly enough its my guilty pleasure I break out to watch on a Sunday afternoon when I am sipping down a few cold ones.

Re: Guilty Pleasures

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:38 pm
by Heibi
Well, I've been carrying around a picture of Ayukawa Madoka(KOR) in my wallet for 20+ years.

Re: Guilty Pleasures

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:08 pm
by raiderfan99
Another silly guilty pleasure is the theme for the dominion tank police OAV dubbed version is way better than the Japanese one....

Re: Guilty Pleasures

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:51 pm
by greg
This isn't anime related, but I kinda liked the G.I. Joe movie. It was dumb and they should've stuck to the Marvel Comics' character and vehicle designs, but it was actually fun, I thought. Much better than those idiotic Transformers movies.

As for anime-related guilty pleasures, does Cardcaptor Sakura count? There's nothing to be guilty about though, really. I was one of the many college guys who watched Sailor Moon when it was aired on TV because, hey, it was anime on TV.

Re: Guilty Pleasures

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:32 pm
by raiderfan99
greg wrote:This isn't anime related, but I kinda liked the G.I. Joe movie. It was dumb and they should've stuck to the Marvel Comics' character and vehicle designs, but it was actually fun, I thought. Much better than those idiotic Transformers movies.

As for anime-related guilty pleasures, does Cardcaptor Sakura count? There's nothing to be guilty about though, really. I was one of the many college guys who watched Sailor Moon when it was aired on TV because, hey, it was anime on TV.
Actually, I agree with you about the GI Joe movie. It wasn't horrible, and Toei animated it(although produced by sunbow), so its kind of anime related. I think the problem with the movie, from what I understand, is the Transformers movie was a flop in the theaters the year before due to the death of optimus prime angering children. When the numbers were analyzed, Mattell came down on the production team of the film and explicit said not to have duke killed, even though Toei had most of the film animated. In haste, script adjustments were made, hence the "duke is in a coma" line. Not to mention, mattell made it a direct-to-video release and showed the movie as a 3 or 4 parter on syndicated tv in reruns. I actually read in a interview with one of the scriptwriters of the film that they were going to take more liberties with the release, they even wanted to create a scene where zarana was nude near the lake. Its a good movie, I just think due to the problems with the Transformers movie, the production crew was severely limited. With that being said, its still a movie to appreciate.

Re: Guilty Pleasures

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 3:26 am
by greg
Interestingly enough, Marvel Comics and Toei worked together to make the animated series for both Transformers and G.I. Joe, however only Transformers is popular in Japan. Ironically, you won't have Transformers without G.I. Joe. As the story goes, the tall 12" G.I. Joe doll series released a soldier with clear skin and robotic parts inside called Henshin Cyborg. This figure was so popular that his clear skin was turned silver, and the action figure was shrunken down and called Microman (called Micronauts in English-speaking countries). The Microman series started involving vehicles that transformed, which became a spinoff in itself called Diaclone. These were all taken together (I think by Marvel guys) and turned into the Transformers. This is why the Autobots were all similar scale, and the Decepticons were just the leftovers like jets, a gun, and a boom box (although even the Autobots had the smaller characters like Huff, Bumblebee, Brawn, and Cliffjumper).

OK, so that said, I thought that Transformers: The Movie was awesome. Prime had already been killed off in the Marvel Comics series, and I thought that his death was much cooler in the movie because he went down fighting (rather than being self-destructed by losing a virtual reality video game that Megatron cheated in by using a backdoor passcode). Then a few issues later, Megatron accidentally kills himself by going crazy and zapping the Space Bridge to Cybertron with himself on it. Dumb. So basically, the movie was badass. What I didn't like, at the time, was how Transformers turned to a futuristic theme with the space cars and such.

As for the "Duke is in a coma" thing, that was so incredibly stupid because he was impaled with a spear. I really hated the turn towards Serpentor and how goofy-assed the whole show turned. That same 5 episode story arc featured some really weird creatures and stuff, IIRC. What I liked about G.I. Joe was that it was mostly modern-day weaponry (the Sky Striker was a Tomcat, the Dragonfly was the ??? attack chopper, etc), so when it turned to goofy sci fi stuff, I lost interest. Don't get me wrong, I freaking LOVE science fiction, so much to the point that as a kid, I did not care for fantasy as a genre because I was so stuck on SF. The Joe comic was super violent and people would get killed, and as such it was much more interesting than the animation. Heck, as a kid, that's what I thought was so mindblowing about Robotech---the fact that it showed people getting killed.

So the G.I. Joe movie was pretty cool, in its own way. It was in-line with the comic more than the cartoon. Turning the Vipers into superhuman clones and whatnot was dumb, but it was much more easily digestible than the absurd Michael Bay Transformers movies.

The first Transformers movie was somewhat palatable, although they screwed up the Marvel character designs to the point where only Optimus Prime was recognizeable, and Bumblebee was somewhat passably recognizeable only because he was yellow (his horns were gone, etc). It's like dude, if you want to cash in on my generation on pure nostalgia factor, make characters like Ratchet an ambulance. If you can't make Sideswipe a Lamborghini because you have some stupid contract with GM, at least make him a Corvette, or at least RED, for Bob's sake. However, the Allspark was such a stupid, LAUGHABLE concept. It was somewhat similar to the Creation Matrix in the Marvel Comics that created life, however the Allspark ONLY seems to create mechanical life that immediately tries to kill any human in its immediate vicinity. This not only begs the question as to why it is so precious to the Autobots and as to why they shouldn't just destroy it, but it also completely obliterates the concept of Free Will among the Transformers (like how Jetfire used to be a Decepticon and a friend to Starscream, and became an Autobot), and the whole notion of how the difference between Autobots and Decepticons even came to be in the first place.

I never even bothered watching the second movie. Watching Spoony's review was enough for me. You can't make a movie that is supposedly geared towards children and still put robot dogs humping girls' legs, magic brownies, and all sorts of other ridiculous crap that I can't even remember. Not to mention that Spike/Buster/Sam dies and somehow goes to Autobot Heaven, as if he had been mistakenly praying to Robot Jesus his whole life without knowing it, and is brought back to life. Holy crap, what the hell? I was given the first movie by my mom on DVD, and I will keep that just for watching with Rifftrax commentary. However, I will not bother to watch the other movies at all. Michael Bay is such a spastic retard. If we all just ignore him and stop giving him money, he will go away. Unfortunately, people today are completely stupid, and appealing to the lowest common denominator is a sure way to make money (Lady GaGa, et al).

Re: Guilty Pleasures

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:11 pm
by davemerrill
I watched the first 5-episode mini-series that introduced the Transformers to TV back in 198-whatever and wasn't impressed, and subsequently have ignored the whole thing ever since. I did see the (animated) movie, just because it was the 80s and animated films in theaters were few and far between, but I can't tell you anything that happens in it.

It would take several thousand dollars to get me to sit in a theater for two hours and watch a Michael Bay movie about Transformers. I'm not saying I'd never do it, just that it would require several thousand dollars.

My 80s cartoon guilty pleasure was The Littles, I think. I watched WAY more of that show than I had any excuse to.

Re: Guilty Pleasures

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:06 pm
by raiderfan99
davemerrill wrote:I watched the first 5-episode mini-series that introduced the Transformers to TV back in 198-whatever and wasn't impressed, and subsequently have ignored the whole thing ever since. I did see the (animated) movie, just because it was the 80s and animated films in theaters were few and far between, but I can't tell you anything that happens in it.

It would take several thousand dollars to get me to sit in a theater for two hours and watch a Michael Bay movie about Transformers. I'm not saying I'd never do it, just that it would require several thousand dollars.

My 80s cartoon guilty pleasure was The Littles, I think. I watched WAY more of that show than I had any excuse to.
You know, the last few weeks I was trying to remember the name to that show, now I realize I was watching the littles when I was VERY young. Did they have a tv special? I think they used to show it on the Disney channel back in the day because I remember it being about 1 1/2 long.....

Re: Guilty Pleasures

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:05 pm
by Nortavlag
Well... my anime-related guilty pleasure... is that when I watched Odin: Photon Sailer Starlight 15-20 years ago I liked it. I want to watch it again someday to see if it holds up. I still dig the song that plays in the credits.

Re: Guilty Pleasures

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:24 pm
by raiderfan99
Nortavlag wrote:Well... my anime-related guilty pleasure... is that when I watched Odin: Photon Sailer Starlight 15-20 years ago I liked it. I want to watch it again someday to see if it holds up. I still dig the song that plays in the credits.
seacchhinnn foahhh oddinnnn mah luvveeeee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A00loNNWzIs