Sentai to release Legend of The Galactic Heroes!

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Sentai to release Legend of The Galactic Heroes!

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The impossible has happened...someone's picked up LOTGH for English release! WOW!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... ime/.89987

Not much info yet, since Sentai apparently JUST got the ok to buy it this morning, but man--talk about things I never thought I'd see happening ever! :shock: Supposedly someone at their panel asked about an English dub and they basically said "we'll see". :lol:
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WOW.

They'll probably have to release it in 1 or 2 big sets because I doubt they'll finish it at a 13 episode per set rate.
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llj wrote:WOW.

They'll probably have to release it in 1 or 2 big sets because I doubt they'll finish it at a 13 episode per set rate.
I was wondering about that, myself...but I can see it going either way. For example, they're releasing long-running series Space Brothers in 13 episode chunks (but that might be because it's still ongoing? I can't remember). But they did that big nice box set for Gatchaman, so maybe we'll be lucky enough to get something like that.
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LOGH never really hit me. I fully understand that it SHOULD be right up my alley but it just never clicked. It's like so many other things in the SF and Fantasy world, there are things that just don't 'work' for me, not the fault of the subject, just not filling some desire or whatever in me. I honestly think it's the use of 'public domain' classical music. Without a memorable soundtrack (see the greatest example of all time, Space Battleship Yamato) the show, for me, just kind of grunts along.

(Never really 'twigged' to Blake's 7 or Red Dwarf, found Babylon 5 to be a very uneven work spoiled by the studio politics BS trainwreck of the last of Season 4 and all of Season 5, blah blah blah oh, anime? Cowboy Bebop isn't all that, enjoyed Heat Guy J way more than I should have and still can't understand why Gatachaman Crowds has Gatchaman in the title... :) )

I'm very happy for those that love LOGH. I know it's been a long, long war to get to this point. I hope Sentai has a strong understanding of just how little this is going to sell to today's market. I don't say that out of any hate, it's just sad, practical reality. Depending on the episode count, the pricing and if it has an English dub (VERY important I feel to grab the casual interest fan) this could have sales well under a 1000 units. Will that be enough? Might Sentai pull the plug if their first 'unit' offered only does like 500 pieces or thereabouts? These things should be considered in the discussion.
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That is something I wonder about, too, Steve. While I can think of a handful of my friends that I know FOR SURE will buy it, I know that they're kind of in the minority. Like you said, I wonder just how much something like this will appeal to the casual anime fan (esp. if they DON'T dub it). It never really hit for me, either, though I've been thinking of trying to pick it up again since it's been years since my first attempt. (If not, I'll just keep listening to my friends' podcast about it, because I don't seem to mind listening to other people talk about it at least!) I think the price point and how they decide to release it will also def. be a factor. This is touted as a classic by so many, but the long, drawn out conversations and space politics aren't gonna be a major selling point to teenagers, I imagine :lol:
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usamimi wrote:That is something I wonder about, too, Steve. While I can think of a handful of my friends that I know FOR SURE will buy it, I know that they're kind of in the minority. Like you said, I wonder just how much something like this will appeal to the casual anime fan (esp. if they DON'T dub it). It never really hit for me, either, though I've been thinking of trying to pick it up again since it's been years since my first attempt. (If not, I'll just keep listening to my friends' podcast about it, because I don't seem to mind listening to other people talk about it at least!) I think the price point and how they decide to release it will also def. be a factor. This is touted as a classic by so many, but the long, drawn out conversations and space politics aren't gonna be a major selling point to teenagers, I imagine :lol:
That's why I think an English dub is essential. From what I remember (and yes, I may be way off) MOST of the series was people talking about stuff. What was going to happen, what has happened, what didn't happen-talk talk talk.

There's nothing wrong with that. Dialog can sometimes be more action packed than the most violent explosion or shooting. Many a movie (live action American) can be just riveting. One I would suggest looking into is "The Sweet Smell Of Success" with Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis. Dialog so sharp it cuts like a razor blade.

LOGH would really work better as an English dub. You can get more nuance from the line reading (assuming a decent ADR director and actors invested in the project) than brief subtitles can allow.

They could completely surprise me. Selling the show in 26 episode chunks, with a dub, and at a reasonable price (say, $29.99 USD for 26 episodes on 7 DVDs so there's plenty of room and the ability to throw in some extras, this would be ideal) and it may well do decent sales. But make it a $400 sub only bare bones brick release and I would say disaster.
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Wow, maybe they can host the next Winter Olympics in Hell at this rate! Sentai Filmworks isn't my first choice (that would likely be Nozomi or Discotek), but... WOW! I'd rather them not invest in a dub for all the dumb kids who will end up say, "Ewwww, this is anime is so OLD and it's HAND DRAWN! Like, OMG, ROFLMAO!" It just strikes me as adding to the risk investment. I just can't imagine the "Duh, reading is hard 'n stuff" crowd really going for LOGH.

Sorry. I don't want to sound like a grumpy old man. I've been cross lately. I do realize the strategy for featuring a dub, but considering that the built-in audience for LOGH probably doesn't care about subtitles, to me it seems that adding a dub would just add to production costs and run the risk of them cancelling it before it gets fully released. I want to see the movies and the gaiden episodes released too.

Steve, although I love LOGH, I can see why people may not like it. It's funny you mentioned Babylon 5. There are some similarities, actually. Both shows involve the protagonists fighting the forces of their homeworld that have succumbed to fascism.
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I think having a dub would help it sell to adults who might not be a fan of reading lots of dialog subtitles, though, as Steve mentioned. Obviously, this isn't gonna sell to teens, but marketing to say, older fans who were into Starblazers or something might not be a bad idea. I know they dubbed the first ep (or was it the first movie? I forget) to test it out...something that is super dialog-heavy would benefit from it. (Hell, I totally throw a dubbed Netflix anime on sometimes while I work on things--easier to listen to in the background since my Japanese is so terrible, so I don't have to stop and read subtitles.) The problem would be that it's so long and it'd probably take a good chunk of time to dub it all...so they might not wanna sink in all that effort in case it ends up selling poorly.

Yeah, Sentai really isn't my first choice in releases either, but hey--they seem way more on board with releasing older stuff lately, so I hope that if they keep ay it, maybe they'll eventually get better.... :lol: (Hey, I can dream.)
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Biggest problem with Sentai is QC. Nearly 75% of their blu-rays have some sort of issue or glitch. All 4 of their Patlabor TV sets have minor but annoying glitches. Kids on the Slope, Bodacious Space Pirates and Penguindrum also have issues as well.

Gatchaman actually turned out OK though.
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Yeah, Sentai's QC is a concern as well. And of course they could throw Stephen Foster on as English ADR writer/director and boom, bleah.

Anyone who knows me knows I'm pretty darn pro-subtitled anime. I agree that dubbing LOGH won't make it that much more appealing to today's teen-tween MOE-centric fan. Dubbing would be mostly for us old pharts. But it just might be critical, as there ARE a goodly number of our generation (and I note, it's not really an age thing so much as a mindset-perception thing.) who are, oddly, rabidly Dub Only.

And of course, a dub is essential if one hopes for any kind of broadcast or narrowcast (i.e. streaming) use.

One way to keep the costs of a dub down would be take the Star Blazers route, cast it entirely with unknowns, cast for decent natural voices. Grab stage-trained actors. Raid the local summer stock companies. And do it ALL at once. One massive, months long block of recording sessions. Don't do the "we'll record a disc's worth this month, and bring people back for the next disc in 6 weeks" crap, let everyone BECOME their characters from familiarity.

(can you tell I've been thinking about something like this for some time? hehehehehe)

Honestly, as hard as it would have been for them, I, too, would have preferred Discotek to have picked this up. But then again, who knows what THEY have up their sleeves? :)
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